There are so many famous sayings about home: “Home is where the heart is,” “There’s no place like home,” “Home is my happy place,” and my personal favorite, “Home is where the wi-fi connects automatically.” Home is relative. I was born and raised in Tennessee and that is home; but I have never felt more at home than I do here- Centralia is my home. Tennessee and Missouri hold spots in my heart that make them both home to me. In fact, I have adopted the phrase “Show Me State with a Tri-Star Heart.” And though I absolutely love my Centralia home, I do come home to Tennessee to see family and friends. It’s always good to be in the foothills of the Smoky Mountains, seeing family, driving through Pigeon Forge & Gatlinburg; but by the end of the trip, I’m ready to be home in Centralia. Home holds a lot of meaning for me.
Not everyone is as fortunate as I am though. For some, home holds painful memories and rough experiences. It’s not a place of fond recollections of time with friends or happy holiday festivities. Home is not some place they ever want to return. To you, my friend, let me encourage you today to change your definition of home. Let me encourage you to not look at home as merely an address or a location, but the place where you feel loved, cared for, encouraged, and supported. That may very well be an address or it may be a group of people. Regardless of your situation, whether home holds fond memories or terrible nightmares, let me encourage you today to come home to a place where you are loved. Wherever or whoever that may be. Too often, our default is to tackle the world on our own and one of the hardest things for anyone to say is, “I need help.” I want to encourage as many of you as I can today, no matter where you are, to come home- no matter what level that is for you.
Church- those who call Jesus Lord, be that home. Luke 15:11-32 tells the story of the prodigal son. A story that most people are familiar with. It focuses on a son who squandered his inheritance and wound up living with pigs. He finally came home, expecting to be servant, but was treated like a king. This is EXACTLY what God did for us when Jesus died on a cross. He made us joint heirs with Jesus Christ, clothed us in righteousness, and called us sons and daughters. The forgotten son in the story is the older son who resented his brother being welcomed back. His argument was that his younger brother didn’t deserve to be welcomed back or treated like royalty. Jesus reminds us in this parable, that none of us were worthy, but the love of God surpasses all of that and we should rejoice every time one comes home. We must be home to those who struggle, those who have messed up, those who live without hope. We must be home to those who don’t agree with us, not compromising truth, but proclaiming it and trusting GOD to change hearts.
So, to the person struggling to get through the day, welcome home. You can find peace & rest in Jesus Christ. To the person who believes they have messed up beyond help, welcome home. We cannot out sin God’s grace. You can find forgiveness in the love that Jesus offers. To the person who has walked away from their faith and the church, welcome home. It is never too late to hand your life over to the Lord. You can find redemption in Jesus Christ. To the person who hasn’t made their faith a priority, welcome home. You can find grace through Jesus Christ who wants to know you and wants you to grow daily in that walk as you follow Him. To the person who has hardened their heart to outsiders and change, welcome home. You can find truth in the Word of God that will open up a vast world of opportunity to reach people who are lost, lonely, hurting, and in need of hope. To the person who doesn’t know Christ as their savior, welcome home. We aren’t perfect. Someone will say the wrong thing to hurt feelings and we won’t always live up to expectations; but I promise you this, Jesus ALWAYS does. He can transform your life in a way that you could not possibly imagine. You can find salvation in Jesus Christ and I would love to share with you just how He can do that.
It’s football season and I am looking forward to being in the stands tonight to cheer on Centralia. That is where I want to be fan. I do not, however, want to be caught on the sidelines of my faith. Several years ago, Kyle Idelman, now Senior Pastor of Southeast Christian Church in Louisville, KY, wrote a book called Not a Fan. It was a well written, thoughtful book about how Christians participate (or don’t participate) in their walk with Christ. The message of that book has stuck with me through the years since I read it and it caused me to view the Christian life, particularly mine, in a different light. One thing that it did, was it made me realize that, like the book said, there are far too many people sitting on the sideline, just a spectator, not really participating. However, as I continue to look through this lens (always at myself first), I came to the realization that there are so many different reasons that people stay on the sidelines. While I cannot address all of the individual reasons we choose to stay on the sidelines, I always feel the need to encourage you to get up and get in the game; and maybe, just maybe, I can encourage you today to do just that.
To my fellow believers- Get off the sidelines: The old cliche of 20% of the people do 80% of the work needs to exit our vocabularies. Get in the game. The Great Commission does not say “Church Staff” go and make disciples. It does not say “Sunday School Teachers” go and make disciples. It does not say “People who have their lives together” go and make disciples. It is an imperative from Christ Himself to ALL OF US to go and make disciples of all nations. In fact, the exact wording if you need the reference is:
“Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
Then in Acts 1:8, a coinciding promise and command is given, “But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea, and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” It is has been made pretty clear that we all have the responsibility to share the gospel, to see people baptized, and to walk with them as we all grow in our faith.
To the casual believer- Get off the sideline: God has placed you on my heart. I want you to be sure, without a shadow of a doubt that you belong to the Lord and not just think you might be. No one who truly has an encounter with Christ will ever walk away the same. I want you to have assurance that beyond a shadow of a doubt that your life has been handed over to the Lord. In his book, Kyle says this:
“The biggest threat to the church today is fans who call themselves Christians but aren’t actually interested in following Christ. They want to be close enough to Jesus to get all the benefits, but not so close that it requires anything from them.”
Kyle Idelman- Not a Fan
If you know that you belong to the Lord, but you’ve been on cruise control lately or for most of your walk, it’s never too late to get in the game. Don’t try to satisfy your conscience by checking boxes of “good, religious things to do.” Get in the game, do the work, and experience the amazing pain of growth. Jesus never asked for fans, He asked for followers; and following requires a response. We cannot hope to follow if we are firmly planted on the sideline.
To the non believer- Get off the sideline: There is a God who loves you. There is a God who wants to save you. I know it’s not always easy to believe that when people who claim to believe in Him don’t exactly reflect it. I get it, I really do. Let me say this though, being a follower of Christ doesn’t make anyone perfect. God never expected us to be perfect as believers, He does expect us to be authentic. If you have tried church before, let me encourage you to try it again. This time, look for one that is authentic and not perfect. The perfect church doesn’t exist, but there are authentic churches out there. You will always run into believers that will upset you, we do too. What I can promise you is that the gospel of Jesus Christ is true and real. It offers hope and salvation, and it provides a love that you could not imagine. It will change you- the way you think, the way you act, the way you perceive things. It will cost you and once you place your faith in Him, life doesn’t automatically become a bed of roses because we still live in a broken and fallen world. But, you will no longer be a slave to this broken world and this life will no longer be as good as it gets. You can’t know this peace and this love if you never respond to it. God is calling you to Him, the message is this repent, turn away from the broken life of sin you lead, and trust that Jesus is the Son of God and that He paid the penalty for those sins. That he lived the life we couldn’t live and died the death we should have died. But not even death could hold Him because He rose 3 days later to give us victory over death. Don’t look for faith based on what you read or see on social media, find a believer, an authentic believer, not perfect, and let them share with you what God can do.
No matter where you are in life or your walk with Christ. If you are sold out or if you aren’t even a believer, get off the sideline and into the game. Respond to the gospel, be baptized, actively grow in your faith, and while we are at it, let’s make more disciples one person at a time. It’s good to be back.
This summer, I took my family on vacation to Universal and we were having a good time. Then four days into my vacation, I found myself in the emergency room with a blood pressure of 200/120. They ran tests and then I spent the next several weeks going to doctor’s appointments, finding the right combination of medications to manage my high blood pressure. During that process, they got family history, blood work, did an EKG, and took my blood pressure regularly. You know what they didn’t do? They didn’t x-ray my knee. They didn’t run an exam on my eyesight to see if I am wearing my contacts. They didn’t even take a throat culture to see if I had strep… I mean, it’s my body right? My heart is instrumental in making all of those things work. They didn’t count how many times I had been to the doctor. Surely if I am going to the doctor and I haven’t missed an appointment, I should be healthy, right? I even looked up high blood pressure on WebMD (by the way, I now have 15 other diseases thanks to that search). If only that actually worked, I mean I am really good at not missing doctor’s appointments. Unfortunately, if I plan on beating my high blood pressure (and I will), my doctors are going to need to assess things that ACTUALLY measure the health of my heart.
A lot has been said about the health of the church over the last several years. Tom Rainer, former CEO of Lifeway, wrote a book a few years ago titled Autopsy of a Deceased Church. In it, Rainer said this about healthy churches:
“Thriving churches have the Great Commission as the centerpiece of their vision, while dying churches have forgotten the clear command of Christ.”
Thom Rainer, Autopsy of a Deceased Church
You notice that at the centerpiece of these churches is the Great Commission (Matthew 28:18-20). That beautiful, wonderful command given to us by Christ before he ascended back to the Father. In those few short verses, we have been given the concept of missions (taking the gospel to all the nations), the idea that we are all messengers of the gospel (baptizing people), and the truth that we are all disciple-makers (teaching them to obey God’s commands). This is the barometer. A church and the health of a church should be measured based on how they are making disciples.
You know what is NOT at the centerpiece of healthy churches? NUMBERS!!!! You cannot adequately define the health of a church through the number of people coming in and out of your doors. That’s like gauging the health of my heart by counting the number of doctors appointments I have gone to. Unfortunately, all too often, this is the ONLY barometer used. Questions like, “So, how many people came to youth last night?” or “Wow attendance in the service has been down, what is going on?” or “People are leaving, there must be a problem.” Now, analytics are certainly useful and we do keep a close eye on the number of people walking through our door; but what I am interested in is how many of those people are walking out of our doors fully committed to living every second of every day for Christ to the best of their ability. Too often, churches and organizations make the grave mistake of making budgets, money, and jobs tied to numbers. The unfortunate realization is that we treat our church, our associations, and our conventions TOO much like a business. I understand the money needs, I really do. However, we see a decline in product, therefore we have to make cuts and the only measurable way we can gauge production is the number of baptisms and salvations. Doing this makes often causes us to cut in the wrong places. Let me explain 3 dangerous ways this is ultimately a death sentence to churches, associations, conventions, and in more drastic cases, church goers if they do not pull away from this measurement of health and begin gauging health by discipleship.
First, when you put such an emphasis on numbers, the inclination is to associate it to tithing members. The erroneous thought is, the more members we have, the more tithers we will have. So the CFOs and the finance committees begin pushing for more and more members. Stop….is tithing something that magically happens when we are saved? When you were baptized, did you emerge from the water and immediately think, “Oh man, I better start giving 10% of my income.” No, you didn’t. If you tithe, it is because you were discipled to do so. There is a lot of good truth in the gospel, tithing isn’t mentioned in the free gift of salvation though. That always comes later. So, what you have is pressure on your staff or, if you are an association or convention, pressure on your churches to baptize more people so that “giving members go up.” Listen to a hard truth, there are more “members” sitting in church today that are not tithing than are. So, obviously, the innate desire to tithe doesn’t come with salvation. What does come is the desire to learn more and draw closer to Christ and in that discipleship, tithing becomes apparent and necessary to the believer.
Second, a church based on numbers almost universally has an unhealthy tie to “the good old days.” They remember when pews were full and the money flowed. The church did whatever ministry they wanted because they had the manpower and resources to do it. Then, as time went on, church attendance began to decline. Money stopped coming in like it used to. Businesses started being open on Sundays in search of a few more bucks. We started playing sports every weekend in hopes of that college scholarship or professional career. Church, which used to be a way of life, now became an option on Sundays and then eventually Wednesdays. So what happened to our people? Did they stop being members? Did they stop being Christian? No, they were never discipled to prioritize church and spiritual growth over other offerings of the world. We thought, it must be the pastor, so we fire him and hire a new one only to experience the exact same thing. And when a pastor came in determined to make discipleship the focus, people got mad and left the church because “everything was changing” and “its not like it used to be.” That’s because discipleship is hard and requires sacrifice of self (see Luke 9:23). Rainer also explained this phenomenon in the “dying” churches he autopsied in his book. He said:
“The most pervasive and common thread of our autopsies was that the deceased churches lived for a long time with the past as hero. They held on more tightly with each progressive year. They often clung to things of the past with desperation and fear. And when any internal or external force tried to change the past, they responded with anger and resolution: “We will die before we change.”
Thom Rainer, Autopsy of a Deceased Church
Last and by far the most devastating effect of making numbers the focus of our health is the danger of false conversions. I worked with a camp for a decade that taught, encouraged, and most importantly discipled students to lead a life devoted to Christ. Our director built a rock solid, biblically strong program that was changing not only lives, but communities as well. Then one September, I get a call from our director saying that we were out at camp. The governing body decided that we were not generating enough “salvations and baptisms” from our program and they were going to go in a different direction. By the way, this is the same governing body who’s 5 objectives are completely centered around numbers. I was devastated. We FELT the Holy Spirt working in that camp environment every year as lives were transformed and recommitted to truly following Christ. What were we supposed to do? Tell churches they could only bring their lost kids? The message was clear, discipleship was not measurable in numbers and as a result they could not report on their “product” so there was no room for discipleship at camp. When you put that kind of pressure on staff, camp directors, or department heads in your convention, the motivation shifts from making sure people are saved to making sure people walk and aisle and get baptized. Believe me, there is a difference. Everyone who truly accepts Christ as their Lord and seeks to grow in Him daily, will walk an aisle, make a profession of faith, and get baptized. However, not everyone who walks and aisle and gets baptized truly accepts Christ as their Lord. As a result of a number driven Church Healthcare System, we have created an unknown number of people who think they are saved, but have never made Christ Lord- and in order to save livelihoods, we have turned the gospel of transformation into an ego-driven numbers mill.
I once had a conversation about this very topic and I told someone that I would rather have a youth ministry of 20 kids who want to grow in Christ every day, than a group of 100 kids who are not concerned about growing whether they are member or not. You want to know where your numbers will come from? Do you want to know how to grow your church numerically? Start by growing your church spiritually. As we disciple every believer, the message of the gospel will go out to those who our members interact with. That will in turn lead people to come to church. Then we take the journey of discipleship together. When that happens, multiplication happens. Then watch God create a building full of world altering disciples. Not every small church is sick and not every big church is healthy. Yes, healthy churches often have a lot of people, but it’s not because pushing numbers. It’s because they have bought into following Christ and their life choices reflect that. Let’s start measuring the health of our churches by the disciples we make- the numbers will take care of themselves.
In Christ Alone,
Rev. Bro. Coach
*many thanks to by medical team, Ryan & Michelle who made sure I didn’t sound like an idiot and mess up any of the medical terms or procedures I mentioned here.
I like to use everyday things to share the gospel (being careful to stay true to the gospel more than the illustration of course). So, let me introduce you to Casey (its a baseball story, Casey is a good name to use). Casey wanted to be a baseball player. He wanted to be a baseball player because his friends were. He watched them become baseball players one or two at a time over the years and pretty soon, he felt left out. He knew what being a baseball player entailed, but he was not interested in that. Casey only wanted to be known as a baseball player and win a championship like all the other players before him. So, the day came to join the baseball team. Casey had learned what to say and how to act. He even practiced enough give the impression that he was committed to being a baseball player. Casey became a baseball player that day and life was good. He had finally accomplished his goal. People looked at Casey and recognized him as a baseball player and for the first few weeks, Casey did everything you would expect out of a baseball player as he rode the high of his newfound status.
After a few weeks though, it started to get hard. He messed up a lot, but the coach said it was ok and gave him multiple chances. Practices, though, began interfering with things he wanted to do. Casey didn’t want to go to 6am workouts to get in shape and become stronger. Being a baseball player was quickly becoming inconvenient for Casey. He had eating habits that he didn’t want to give up. He didn’t want to do the work that it took to stay in shape. He had other friends who were wanting him to quit baseball because they thought it was stupid; and they wanted Casey to go do things that he knew the coach wouldn’t approve. Casey didn’t realize what it took to be a baseball player. This isn’t what he wanted. All Casey wanted was for people to see him as a baseball player and win that championship.
Pretty soon, Casey’s habits began to change. There is only so long that you can keep up a charade and Casey’s true intentions started surfacing. He still wanted to be seen as a baseball player. He wanted the praise and the attention that other people were giving him for being one. He wanted that championship. However, the daily work that Casey was putting in quickly dwindled to a couple of times a week. He would show up for practice, but he didn’t do any other work on his own outside of that. Casey’s performance & attitude began to deteriorate. Soon, Casey only went to practice because he was told to go. Then the inevitable happened- Casey started missing practices. Instead, Casey started doing other things that he wanted to do and thought were more important. He began making poor choices about his health and poor choices about who to be around. Eventually, Casey stopped coming to practices all together.
The season began and went much faster than Casey anticipated. All Casey wanted was to be a baseball player and be known as a baseball player & win a championship. As an attempt to continue the charade, Casey showed up to the occasional practice or game. His actions and his decisions, however, showed something completely different. People stopped recognizing Casey as a baseball player and eventually, people started wondering if Casey was ever really a baseball player, or was it just something he pretended to be? Before Casey knew it, it was the final game. The baseball team was playing in the championship. Casey was excited, after all he was a baseball player right? He wanted to play in the championship game. It was too late, however. By the time Casey got there, the game was over. “That’s ok,” Casey thought, I am still part of the team, I can celebrate the victory with the rest of them. As he approached the field, he heard the championship presentation ceremony taking place. Casey ran out on the field and got in line to receive his reward. The coach, greeted each player the same way. “Well done, here is your reward.” When he got to Casey, the coach’s expression changed and became solemn. Casey was excited to hear those same words, but instead, the coach turned to walk away. Casey called out, “Coach, what about me? It’s me Casey.” The coach turned and as an expression of being heartbroken washed over the coach’s face, he looked at Casey and said, “I don’t know you.”
My dear friends. Don’t deceive yourself into a false sense of security when it comes to your salvation. Know where you are going. Don’t be caught in the 3rd chair (see my article Eliminating the 3rd Chair). Salvation is more than walking an aisle and saying a prayer. It is a complete and total transformation of who you are because of Christ. You cannot experience Christ and walk away the same person. Once you accept Christ, there is work to do. Work to grow. We were meant to grow in our faith. Casey made the mistake of treating becoming a baseball player as a destination, when in fact it was just the beginning of the journey. Those who truly accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior will weather the hard work and the tough times. Those who just want the status, will fade. It is hard to keep up a charade of something you are not. In the end, everyone spends eternity somewhere. Everyone of will hear one of two things. We will either hear, “Well done, good and faithful servant,” or we will hear “depart from me for I never knew you.” I can think of no worse fate, then to stand before God in judgment only to find out you never gave Him your life after deceiving yourself that you did.
At this point, you’ve clicked on this article for one of two reasons: 1) You follow this blog and you wanted to see what is rattling around my brain today or 2) You really want to know what I have against chairs. That’s fair, so let me offer some background. There is an evangelistic message that I use when I am invited to speak and occasionally I will use it at church called the 4 Chairs. I didn’t write it nor did I put it together. I first heard it years ago when I heard Adrian Despres present it at a youth conference. I became friends with Adrian (we have a mutual friend that we were unaware of at the time) and I eventually got the courage up to ask if it was ok that I use the 4 Chairs as an evangelistic tool when I spoke. He was very excited and graciously told me he would love for me to use it.
So, without going into the whole thing, here is what each chair represents: Chair number 1 represents those who are completely sold out, believers of Christ, pursuing holiness and growing in their faith daily- not perfect Christians (there is no such thing) but definitely growing. Chair number 2 represents Christians who have gotten comfortable. They attend church, but don’t care to miss for frivolous things. They have growth spurts, but its not necessarily an on-going process. They are believers, but it is often compartmentalized as a Sunday and/or Wednesday thing that doesn’t always make an appearance in their life outside of church unless specifically asked about. They absolutely believe in evangelism, but tend to shy away from doing evangelism themselves. They are satisfied staying where they are until they realize that by staying still, they have moved farther away from Christ, so they catch up (hence the growth spurts). This, unfortunately is where most members of churches are today, especially here in American where we don’t suffer the hard persecution that other countries face. And before pride gets the best of you, ALL OF US have spent time in this chair. Chair 4 (yes, I know I skipped chair 3) are those who know without a shadow of a doubt that they are not Christian. They are what we consider lost people. They act like lost people, they rely on themselves, but something you need to consider as a believer- many of them are wonderful people who are as “good” or better humans than a lot of believers. They love others, they help people in need, they smile at you, and they are great students, neighbors, family members, etc… This is why the gospel is so important to reach them- we can’t be good enough to get to Heaven, and the message of the gospel is that we ALL need a savior.
That brings me to Chair 3- the most dangerous chair in this entire presentation, because the concept behind this chair is very real in our churches today. Chair 3 represents people who have at some point in time in their life been convinced that they are saved, but are not; and now they go through their lives thinking they are Heaven-bound but they aren’t. They sit in churches and hear the gospel preached and never respond to the invitation to accept Christ because they think it does not apply to them. This can happen for a multitude of reasons. Some think that salvation is inherited- their grandparents or parents are Christian so they are. You can identify this mindset because it is often accompanied by them telling you they’ve been Christians “their whole life.”
As a church, however, we need to take responsibility for eliminating this chair in our churches. Too many times, you see a kid walk the aisle at a VBS only to walk it every single year at VBS after that. As a a youth pastor, we see hundreds of students go forward at a conference because they feel convicted for something in their life. There is no doubt that many genuinely give their lives to Christ, but I have seen far too many come back and absolutely nothing changed in their lives. They just wanted to feel better in the moment- but no transformation. You see, you cannot encounter Christ and walk away the same person. Romans 6: 1-5 paints this picture:
What should we say then? Should we continue in sin so that grace may multiply? Absolutely not! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Or are you unaware that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? Therefore we were buried with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we too may walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be in the likeness of his resurrection.
I believe we have a responsibility to make sure this doesn’t happen. We, as the church, cannot rubber stamp salvations without putting in the effort to follow up with those new believers, not because they need us to be saved- that’s God’s job, but to talk through what salvation will mean for them. They need to know the road will be tough. They need to know that they will sacrifice things, actions, habits, friends, and sometimes even family. They need to know that this isn’t a decision that fixes all of their problems, that it’s not a quick escape plan, and there will be many more difficult times in their lives. How do we do that? Discipleship! Yeah, yeah, there I go with the D word again. Sorry, not sorry. If we do not take this step, then at the first sign of trouble or opposition they will learn the hard way and many walk completely away from the church deeming it a failure or worse questioning if this “Jesus stuff” is even real. These things happen all of the time and I am fearful how many people are walking around today thinking they are saved and Heaven-bound only to be in for an eternally rude awakening when they stand before the Lord in judgment and He says, “I never knew you.” I was told of a recent conversation between someone close to me and their friend. The friend identified himself as a Christian, but thinks he’s an agnostic or atheist. Those two things cannot co-exist and by identifying himself as Christian, he is convinced that he is saved.
You may think that I am taking a seemingly rigid view of this, but let me ask you- how upset would you be if you thought you were saved your whole life, only to find out you never had a relationship with Christ after it was too late? And how much worse is it, if a church was the one that gave you that false assurance because they did not follow up or disciple you? When you accept Christ, you CHANGE- simple as that. You desires begin looking like God’s desires. You WANT to grow, you WANT to be a part of the body, you WANT others to have the same salvation that you have. 2 Corinthians 5:17 tells us, “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation, the old has passed away, and see, the new has come.” So, yes, I am taking a rigid view of this because it is that important and no, this isn’t a Keith Jones crusade, I have taken my cues from Christ himself. Read Luke chapter 9, you will discover that Jesus talks people out of following Him as much as He brought people along to follow Him. He explained the cost and what it takes to follow Him. He made sure their commitment was genuine.
Truth is we won’t get them all. Some people don’t want life change, they only want temporary relief from guilt. Others will outright reject the gospel invitation, but we have a responsibility to reach as many as we can with the gospel of Jesus Christ and we definitely have a responsibility to make sure that we follow up and invest in the genuine growth of His disciples. That means making sure that no one walks away from us with a false understanding of their own salvation. This is not meant to make you question your salvation at all- it is intended to make you think- about your life and how the gospel is presented to others. If you feel like you may fall into this 3rd chair, I urge you not to waste another moment, talk to someone you trust and get on that path to follow Christ. My approach…my heart in writing this is if I am wrong in being this particular, then there is nothing to lose, I’ll see you in Heaven; but if I am right, if there are people destined for hell that think they are saved and I don’t say anything, that would be difficult to live with. Church, let’s put the work in. Let’s celebrate new life where there is new life. Let’s all make efforts to become believers in that first chair and let’s make every effort to eliminate the 3rd chair.